1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Previously on UFO Witness, 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:09,000 an investigation into glowing orb UFOs over New England. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,000 You can just see this big blabba blabba floating in the sky. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Revealed their potential connection to a terrifying breed of insectoid aliens. 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,000 It sounds like an ant. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Stick like legs like bamboo. 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:32,000 With shape-shifting UFOs also spotted near key military bases. 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Yo, what the what? 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 The question must be asked, 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,000 could different aliens be vying for control of Earth? 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,000 There's been a war for this planet. 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,000 For a long time. 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,000 And what if the battle has already begun? 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,000 The first ever UFOs in the world 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,000 Be loved sea level. 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Did you feel at this instant that maybe you and your friend weren't gonna live? 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Absolutely we did. 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,000 You flamed like a lab rat. 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:20,000 80% of our oceans are still unexplored. 20 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,000 We haven't even been to the bottom of it in some places. 21 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,000 It would make the perfect place for extraterrestrials to hide. 22 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,000 You're talking about what is considered a USO, right? 23 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Which is an unidentified submersible object. 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:40,000 USOs, unidentified submerged or submersible objects 25 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,000 are the latest frontier in ufology. 26 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Over 71% of the Earth's surface is covered in water. 27 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Providing the perfect cover for visiting alien species 28 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,000 and their potentially insidious plans. 29 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,000 So now you have a completely different vehicle that's using the water 30 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,000 to interact with its technology. 31 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:07,000 Yeah, when they go into the water, it's like they're unaffected 32 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 by the inertia. 33 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Recently, startling footage of an unidentified submerged object 34 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,000 was leaked from the US Navy. 35 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Whoa, it's getting close. 36 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Yeah, we have 31 knots of steam, we're on the top side. 37 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Whoa, it splashed. 38 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,000 This remarkable sighting was filmed on July 15, 2019 39 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:38,000 aboard the USS Omaha, just off the coast of Catalina Island 40 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,000 in Southern California. 41 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,000 The footage shows a solid ball, roughly six feet in diameter, 42 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:50,000 flying at speeds estimated as high as 158 miles per hour 43 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,000 before plunging into the Pacific Ocean. 44 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,000 No wreckage was found at the site. 45 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:02,000 The underwater aspect to me, this connection with water to begin with, 46 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,000 it seems like it's becoming more and more prevalent. 47 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,000 It's something you can't ignore, this relationship to water. 48 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Yeah, we're dealing with a completely different technology. 49 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Whoa! 50 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Catalina Island, less than 20 miles off the coast of Los Angeles, 51 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,000 is believed to be a USO hotspot. 52 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,000 For years, fishermen have told stories of strange lights 53 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,000 appearing underwater. 54 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,000 We're not sure if it's true, but it's true. 55 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,000 We're not sure if it's true, but it's true. 56 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,000 We're not sure if it's true, but it's true. 57 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,000 We're not sure if it's true, but it's true. 58 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,000 There's been less than seven hundred and five thousand 59 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,000 evidence of strange lights appearing underwater. 60 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:55,000 Fisherman Brad Castle had an ominous encounter here in 2007. 61 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:01,000 And for the first time, he's willing to share his story on camera. 62 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,000 You know basically why we're here. 63 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,000 We're looking at Catalina because we've been told 64 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,000 for, shall we say, strange phenomena. 65 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Yeah. 66 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Oh, absolutely it is. 67 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,000 But you had a story where something happened below. 68 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,000 Yeah. 69 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,000 I've seen all kinds of things in the water that happened from 70 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,000 bioluminescence and phosphorus. 71 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,000 But what happened can't be explained by all the things that 72 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,000 I've seen in all the time I've been on the water. 73 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,000 There were probably seven, eight miles past the east end of 74 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Catalina headed towards San Clemente, and it was super dark. 75 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,000 It was about midnight. 76 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:47,000 And as we're cruising along, the ocean just lit up. 77 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,000 And it was a very, very dark day. 78 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,000 And it was a very, very dark day. 79 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,000 And it was a very, very dark day. 80 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,000 The ocean just lit up. 81 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,000 At least 100 yards in every direction around where we were on 82 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,000 the boat was bright, bright, white light. 83 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Super, super brilliant. 84 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 And it was shocking. 85 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,000 It was so bright. 86 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,000 When it came on, it just took your breath away. 87 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,000 You couldn't see the water because the light was so bright 88 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,000 and it extended so far around the boat, and we were right in 89 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,000 the middle of it. 90 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,000 We were lit up. 91 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,000 It was like we were in the middle of a light bulb. 92 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,000 The guy that was with me actually screamed. 93 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 It was just insane. 94 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,000 It was so, so brilliant. 95 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Did you feel at this instant that maybe you and your friend 96 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,000 weren't going to live? 97 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Absolutely we did. 98 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,000 Fearing for his life, Brad had no choice but to ride out the 99 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,000 blinding light. 100 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,000 I just had a death grip on the wheel. 101 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:02,000 It was a moment where we're feeling like we're at its mercy. 102 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 We had no power over this. 103 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Whatever it was could have done whatever it wanted. 104 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,000 Feeling his boat being pulled towards the light, Brad gunned 105 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,000 the engine. 106 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,000 And then it boomed. 107 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,000 It was off like that. 108 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,000 And when that pitch black happened. 109 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,000 You were almost blinded. 110 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Yeah, it was just you couldn't see anything. 111 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,000 It just felt like we were driving off of a cliff. 112 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,000 If there were some type of craft above you, would you have 113 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,000 been able to hear it? 114 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Oh yeah, yeah. 115 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,000 This wasn't above us. 116 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,000 This was definitely below. 117 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,000 This was underneath us and it lit up. 118 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,000 The light was coming up. 119 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,000 You could see something. 120 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Did you see any form or shape underneath it? 121 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Nothing. 122 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,000 You couldn't really look into the water because it was so 123 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,000 bright. 124 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,000 It was so bright. 125 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,000 It was just unbelievable. 126 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,000 How did you start to look at life after this? 127 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Now I know that we are not alone and we are literally 128 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,000 nothing in the universe. 129 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Our technology, we're just little pipsqueaks in the 130 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,000 universe. 131 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:27,000 There are other things out there that could definitely do 132 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,000 whatever they want with us because their technology is 133 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,000 so far advanced. 134 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,000 It's ridiculous. 135 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Unless of course it is something from the Navy or 136 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,000 something like that. 137 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,000 But if it's something from the Navy or something, 138 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,000 some kind of technology that we now have, we didn't gain 139 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:54,000 that technology by any other means than from them. 140 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Right, like where did we get it from? 141 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Yeah, there's no way we could develop something like that. 142 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:10,000 I have an aeronautical chart here and this is what I 143 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,000 often used to fly with. 144 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,000 I'm wondering if you kind of show me where your siding was. 145 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Here's Catalina and there's San Clemente. 146 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Approximately right here, about 20 miles past Catalina, 147 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,000 right in this area right here. 148 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 Do you know what the depth was there? 149 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Oh gosh, the depth had to be a couple thousand feet at 150 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,000 least. 151 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Just like the USO off San Diego, this craft seemed to 152 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,000 use the deep water to its advantage. 153 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Do you have any friends off Catalina that have seen some 154 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 of the same stuff? 155 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Most of the people won't talk about them too much. 156 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,000 They don't like elaborate a whole lot because they don't 157 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 want to look like, they don't want to feel like they're 158 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,000 crazy or look at them like they're crazy. 159 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,000 But there's a lot of people that have lived there forever, 160 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,000 have had experiences. 161 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,000 Something dangerous is happening off the shores of 162 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,000 Southern California. 163 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,000 What are these USOs up to? 164 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,000 And how concerned should we be? 165 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Brad Castle isn't the only one seeing strange lights off 166 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 Catalina's shores. 167 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,000 He connects Ben and Melissa with a witness who has some 168 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,000 compelling video that could help the investigation. 169 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Hello. 170 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Hey, I'm Ben. 171 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,000 Kathleen has quite a bit more training than I'd say your 172 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,000 casual observer. 173 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,000 She's an amateur astronomer and she really knows celestial 174 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 bodies, what should be in the sky, what shouldn't. 175 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,000 So when she says this is unlike anything that she's 176 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,000 witnessed, that's what I take notice of. 177 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,000 Kathleen Hill has lived on Catalina for decades and her 178 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,000 routine observations of the island's night skies have led 179 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,000 to some startling sightings, both in the skies and below the 180 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,000 seas. 181 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Kathleen Hill interview, Catalina investigation. 182 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Kathleen, thank you for joining us. 183 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 As you know, we're looking into the phenomena that's 184 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,000 happened around the island. 185 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,000 I understand that you've been seeing strange lights for 186 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,000 years. 187 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Oh, gosh. 188 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,000 I'd seen them at least five or six times. 189 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,000 The first time in 2007 or 2008, my kids and I were eating 190 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 dinner, we're looking out the window and we're like, whoa, 191 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,000 look at those orange lights. 192 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,000 And there were three, like a pyramid. 193 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,000 And they just stayed in the same spot. 194 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,000 This went on for a good 50 minutes and then they just 195 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,000 went out. 196 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,000 They didn't like fly away. 197 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,000 They didn't do anything. 198 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,000 They literally were right there in the same spot and then 199 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,000 they just went out. 200 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,000 No movement whatsoever, just stationary in the sky. 201 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,000 Right. 202 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,000 The strange lights around Catalina plagued Kathleen for years 203 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,000 and she made it her mission to catch video proof of their 204 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,000 presence. 205 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,000 So when did this happen, this video that you took? 206 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,000 The video I took was in 2012 from my living room. 207 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,000 It was probably about nine o'clock at night. 208 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,000 I'm really looking out over the ocean. 209 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Suddenly, the strange lights appeared to Kathleen once 210 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,000 again. 211 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,000 And she was filled with an overwhelming sense of shock. 212 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,000 What is this? 213 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Kathleen Hill had been waiting to see the strange lights of 214 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Catalina once more and this time she was ready. 215 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,000 She sprung into action to record proof of their existence. 216 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 In my film, you'll see them kind of move, but that's me 217 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,000 lining up the camera and the lens and trying to hold it 218 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,000 steady, but they don't move. 219 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,000 Why don't you show me your video? 220 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,000 If you watch, they all look rather roundish. 221 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Hold on, I'm recording this. 222 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 I don't know what they are. 223 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,000 And at one point, they pitch at the same time in the same 224 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,000 direction and they turn into almost like half circles. 225 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,000 What is this? 226 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Almost like they were like this and then they pitch. 227 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Why are these USOs changing shape information? 228 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,000 Are they preparing to dive? 229 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,000 So I went over to the left, keeping the telescope very steady 230 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,000 and tracked over this as a house on the hillside. 231 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,000 OK. 232 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,000 And then I tracked back to see where they were in 233 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,000 relation to that house and they were gone. 234 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,000 Oh my gosh. 235 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,000 And they're completely gone. 236 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Just like that. 237 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Is it possible the UFOs were actually USOs 238 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,000 that plunged into the ocean? 239 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Are they always in the same spot or are they different 240 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,000 parts of the horizon? 241 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Always in the same general area. 242 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,000 Definitely not the exact same spot. 243 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,000 OK. 244 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,000 And you're pretty sure it's the same phenomenon, the same 245 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,000 thing you're seeing? 246 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Yes. 247 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,000 They're behaving the same, staying in the same spot for, 248 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:49,000 you know, up to 45, 50 minutes without moving. 249 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,000 So your estimate is that it was over the water between 250 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,000 the islands? 251 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,000 Definitely. 252 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,000 Off the east end of the island. 253 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,000 I think like 10 to 15 miles. 254 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,000 And that's 10 to 15 miles out in the ocean. 255 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Mm-hmm. 256 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,000 Off the east end. 257 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,000 We talked to one gentleman who witnessed something coming 258 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,000 up actually out of the water that was so bright. 259 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,000 That's incredible. 260 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,000 It engulfed the whole ship. 261 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,000 Yeah. 262 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Have you heard other stories of people out there on the 263 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,000 island seeing strange lights? 264 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,000 I've heard other stories before and I've heard the story 265 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,000 of the fishermen seeing the light under the water. 266 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Mm-hmm. 267 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Yeah. 268 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,000 If you can't explain this naturally, what do you think 269 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,000 this is? 270 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,000 They do get asked all the time if I think aliens have been 271 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,000 here and if you told me tomorrow they came and you showed 272 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,000 me proof, I'd believe it. 273 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Is there something just unique about Catalina, the channel 274 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,000 islands that would lend itself to our investigation? 275 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:57,000 If I were an alien looking for some place out in the ocean, 276 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,000 the channel between Catalina and the mainland is deep, 277 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000 deep, deep. 278 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,000 The sea floor reaches depths over one mile. 279 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,000 If you were to sail off the coast of Catalina Island, 280 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,000 could an alien species be using the trench as cover for an 281 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,000 underwater base? 282 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,000 We have stumbled upon something really big that's happening 283 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,000 here in Southern California. 284 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,000 There's lights coming up from the bottom of the ocean and 285 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,000 there's also lights in the sky. 286 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,000 What is happening off the coast of Catalina? 287 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,000 I don't know, but there is something happening between 288 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,000 the island and the mainland. 289 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,000 To find out more about the strange lights off Catalina, 290 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,000 Melissa has tracked down one case of an abductee who claims 291 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,000 she was taken inside would appear to be an undersea 292 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 alien base. 293 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,000 So I came across this case, this woman, she had an 294 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,000 experience where she was taken from her home and taken to 295 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,000 some kind of underwater base. 296 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Also that the best person to interview about this case is 297 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,000 a hypnotherapist. 298 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,000 She actually has the tapes of the therapy session. 299 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,000 The event was very traumatic for the victim, Kim 300 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,000 Carlsberg. 301 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Because of the difficulty she feels in talking about her 302 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,000 experience on camera, she has given permission for her 303 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,000 therapist, Yvonne Smith, to play never before heard audio 304 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,000 tapes of the hypnotherapy sessions about her abductee. 305 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:41,000 Yvonne has been a regressive hypnotherapist for 30 years, 306 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,000 specializing in post-traumatic stress with patients who 307 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,000 believe they are victims of alien abductions. 308 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,000 Good to see you again. 309 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Based out of Southern California, she's treated an 310 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,000 abnormally high number of abductees taken by USOs. 311 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,000 We were referred to you because of a particular case with 312 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000 Kim Carlsberg, right? 313 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Yes. 314 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Do you remember how the regressions went with Kim and 315 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000 what she had revealed? 316 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,000 They were intense. 317 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,000 She was terrified. 318 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,000 According to Yvonne, Kim was abducted from Malibu Beach in 319 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,000 1992. 320 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,000 This is the first time her hypnosis tapes have been 321 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 played publicly. 322 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,000 I'm on a beach walking. 323 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:37,000 And I'm like, over the water. 324 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:43,000 It's far away, but then, don't talk to me. 325 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Huge, bright. 326 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,000 And it scared her. 327 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,000 I mean, she was terrified. 328 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,000 And then black out. 329 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,000 Right there in front of her, and then she kind of blacks out. 330 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Yeah, and she didn't know what it was. 331 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,000 The next thing Kim recalls is finding herself not on the 332 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,000 beach, but in her bed at home. 333 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:18,000 I'm in bed so tired. 334 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:24,000 After midnight, and I fall asleep, but then I'm in bed. 335 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:30,000 And I'm out of my bed with a giant room in the walls of 336 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,000 what? 337 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,000 I'm not alone. 338 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,000 I'm scared there's creatures staring at me. 339 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:45,000 It's like a bug walking stick with a huge head. 340 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,000 I'm scared. 341 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,000 I'm scared. 342 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:54,000 It's like a bug walking stick with a huge head. 343 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,000 The eyes, listen. 344 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000 It comes closer. 345 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,000 It touches me. 346 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,000 It puts tubes in me, hoping. 347 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:11,000 And then they play me like a lab rat. 348 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,000 It opens me, and it's all in my chest. 349 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,000 It's all in my body. 350 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Based on Kim's horrific description, is it possible she 351 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:31,000 was abducted by an alien species known as the Mantis? 352 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,000 This one is a praying mantis type being, approximately 7 foot 353 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:41,000 tall, extremely smart, articulate, very manipulative. 354 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,000 It's described as horrible, evil. 355 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:50,000 The most curious of extraterrestrial races are mantis beings. 356 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,000 They have been seen in many abduction scenarios. 357 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,000 The mantis beings are bipedal. 358 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,000 They stand upright. 359 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:04,000 They have three pronged fingers and feet. 360 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:10,000 And their language pretty much is a series of clicks. 361 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,000 But they are also telepathic. 362 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:20,000 They primarily come from Andromeda, Orion, and the Sombrero 363 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,000 galaxy. 364 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,000 But they actually far reach out into the universe to places 365 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,000 that we don't even know exist. 366 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:38,000 I know that she just had this definite hatred and probably 367 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:43,000 fear in regard to that praying mantis. 368 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,000 Yvonne, when you were in a session with Kim, do you remember 369 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,000 her ever saying that she was taken to a base? 370 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,000 Yes, absolutely. 371 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:59,000 And I know people have seen a craft coming up from the water. 372 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:05,000 I know from the work that I've done that when you see a 373 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:10,000 craft and there's a craft in the area, there usually are 374 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,000 abductions. 375 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,000 When you hear a story like Kim tells, I don't care who you are, 376 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:21,000 when you're being taken against your will and being subjected 377 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,000 to these examinations, it's a pretty frightening thing. 378 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,000 You have no control over it. 379 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Now the question remains, was the mantis piloting the USO? 380 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,000 And if so, could they have an underwater base? 381 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,000 The pressure is on to find answers. 382 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,000 Ben and Melissa split up to meet with different experts who 383 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:48,000 have been researching the USOs in this region for years. 384 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,000 Preston Denich will help Melissa dig deeper into the region's 385 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,000 UFO encounters, while Brittany Barbieri will work with Ben to 386 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:01,000 locate an entrance to a potential underwater alien base. 387 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,000 Brittany and I go way back researching UFO hotspots. 388 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,000 She's done quite a lot of research about Catalina and these 389 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,000 Channel Islands, so I want to see what new information she has. 390 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,000 So you know, my partner Melissa and I have been hearing some 391 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,000 pretty crazy stories about Catalina and the activity. 392 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,000 Yes. 393 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 So why don't we compare notes and see what's been going on? 394 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,000 I'm all for it, because there seems to be a little bit of an 395 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,000 uptick too recently. 396 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,000 We're interviewing a lot of different people and trying to see 397 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 what their patterns are. 398 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,000 What can you tell me about all these cases that you have collected? 399 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:42,000 I can tell you that mile for mile, the Santa Catalina Channel 400 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,000 is probably one of the top producers in the world for USOs. 401 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:53,000 I'd say there's a good handful of cases, 10, 20, where if someone 402 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,000 is out on their boat and an object comes from the distance, 403 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,000 they can see it through water. 404 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,000 They can see it glowing and it causes some electromagnetic 405 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,000 disturbance with their electrical system. 406 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,000 The compass is spinning. 407 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,000 Alien craft are often believed to use propulsion systems that 408 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,000 produce strong electromagnetic fields. 409 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,000 A common sign of their presence is a compass gone haywire. 410 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,000 That case is stretching back, let's see, to 1920s. 411 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Wow. 412 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,000 We termed USOs, unidentified submersible objects. 413 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,000 We have one in particular that took place in 1966, and I have 414 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,000 that footage. 415 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:44,000 A Coast Guard photographer filming Catalina's topography caught 416 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,000 this wingless disc speeding across the length of the island. 417 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,000 Wow. 418 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,000 Are you serious? 419 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,000 It went off the back of the mountain and disappeared. 420 00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:00,000 Could this object have vanished into the water? 421 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,000 Do you have any cases where they actually interact with people? 422 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,000 Yeah, one case comes to mind, which is a gentleman I call Paul 423 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,000 Nelson. 424 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,000 That's not his real name. 425 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,000 He wants to be anonymous. 426 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,000 To this day, the man known as Paul lives in near constant 427 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,000 dread of another abduction. 428 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,000 But when he was a child in the late 1980s, he had an episode of 429 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,000 missing time. 430 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,000 One evening in 1987, Paul and his best friend snuck on to his 431 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,000 parents' yacht, which was docked on Catalina. 432 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,000 They had just bought some comic books and were super excited to 433 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,000 look through them. 434 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,000 The boys were just hoping for a little unsupervised fun. 435 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Instead, they got the shock of their lives. 436 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,000 They had just gotten on the boat and boom. 437 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,000 They were knocked unconscious. 438 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,000 They're all alone. 439 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,000 There's no parents or anything. 440 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000 Right. 441 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,000 And then all of a sudden. 442 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,000 Next thing they know, it's morning. 443 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,000 So missing time. 444 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,000 We're in a missing time situation. 445 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:28,000 Years later, as an adult, he actually went under hypnosis. 446 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,000 And under hypnosis, he was taken back to this incident on 447 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,000 Catalina Island. 448 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,000 Paul described being taken to what appears to be an underground 449 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,000 area. 450 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,000 He said it had rock walls. 451 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,000 Like an undersea UFO base. 452 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,000 Yes. 453 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,000 It was quite large. 454 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:02,000 He saw what he described as praying mantis-type means. 455 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,000 Large, huge bulbous eyes, triangular-shaped head, 456 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,000 and the claw-like hands. 457 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,000 These are deathly scary. 458 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,000 Oh, yeah. 459 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,000 Yeah, absolutely. 460 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:22,000 In 2021, a previous investigation led Ben to an abductee who 461 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,000 also suffered at the hands of the mantis. 462 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Rob Follington. 463 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Is there anybody there with you? 464 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,000 Yeah. 465 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,000 I got a mantis. 466 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,000 Mantis encounters are often horrifying and dangerous. 467 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:45,000 Heaven's next, I started getting sick. 468 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Constant vomiting, maybe blood sometimes. 469 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,000 I have really gnawing pain in my stomach. 470 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,000 Many witnesses claim similar stories. 471 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,000 At best, they describe their captors as emotionless insects. 472 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:08,000 At worst, they describe an alien species intent on destroying 473 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000 humanity. 474 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,000 Do you have any other cases involving not just boaters, 475 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,000 but possibly pilots that have come over USOs? 476 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000 Is Noah Pheliz? 477 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,000 Who had a really extraordinary encounter. 478 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Just like Paul Nelson, Noah Pheliz has asked to remain anonymous. 479 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,000 And the story of his encounter makes it easy to understand why 480 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,000 he lives in fear of the mantis. 481 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,000 Key and, I believe it was his cousin had taken off in a little 482 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,000 Piper Cherokee. 483 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,000 This was January 26, 1980. 484 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,000 And they saw something on the water. 485 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,000 It did not look normal. 486 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,000 And there were people on deck who also didn't look normal. 487 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,000 So he actually deviated from his flight plan and pulled a U-turn 488 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,000 to come around and take a closer look. 489 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,000 This is when things got really interesting. 490 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,000 He's looking down at these things and a beam of light comes from 491 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,000 this object and strikes his plane. 492 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,000 He had a time distortion. 493 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,000 He wasn't quite sure how long this happened. 494 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,000 He estimates it was a good 30 seconds or so. 495 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,000 It was as if time stopped. 496 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,000 To me, that's a red flag. 497 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,000 There's more to this encounter than he might perceive. 498 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,000 Next thing he knows, he's being rescued out of the water. 499 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:15,000 And they estimate that he was actually underwater for about 20 minutes. 500 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,000 His cousin did not actually survive this accident. 501 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000 Noah's cousin was killed in a car accident. 502 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,000 He was even drowned before help could arrive. 503 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,000 But Noah did. 504 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,000 This doesn't seem like a friendly, I'd like to get to know you, situation. 505 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000 No, it doesn't. 506 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000 Rad Castle. 507 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,000 Kathleen Hill. 508 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000 Noah Feliz. 509 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,000 Paul Nelson. 510 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,000 The list of witnesses is growing. 511 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,000 What's the pattern in all these cases that seem to be happening out the coast? 512 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,000 This is definitely something I've looked into very deeply. 513 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,000 I catalogued all these cases. 514 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,000 I put them out on a map. 515 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000 I can show you these maps, actually. 516 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,000 Could Preston's research point to the location of the undersea bay entrance? 517 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,000 Let's start with Paul Nelson. 518 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,000 So that would be an Avalon Bay right here. 519 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,000 Okay. 520 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000 Noah Feliz's case. 521 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,000 That would be right around here. 522 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000 And then anything else? 523 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Yeah, there was a scuba diver where she was taken. 524 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,000 Oh, really? 525 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,000 Is there a name for this scuba diver? 526 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,000 Her name is Lori. 527 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,000 Okay. 528 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000 There's a lot going on here. 529 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:49,000 I guess, and there's a parking lot down there, if not a base of some kind. 530 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,000 Based on a huge number of reports, there are deep trenches. 531 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:59,000 There are plenty of places for USOs to hide. 532 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:06,000 If your theory is correct that there's some kind of base off the coast of Catalina, 533 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,000 why do you think that they would travel all the way from wherever they're supposed to travel, 534 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,000 find a trench, set up a base? 535 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,000 One possibility is that they've been here much longer than we have. 536 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,000 They've always had a base down there. 537 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,000 Why not? 538 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,000 And this is a perfect place for them to sort of hide out. 539 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,000 They can do all the activities that they want to do. 540 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:37,000 Uploaducting people, studying our planet, studying us, and be undetected. 541 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:45,000 While Melissa meets with Preston, Ben zeroes in on where to take their investigation next with researcher Brittany Barbieri. 542 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,000 Okay, so now we have an area of interest. 543 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,000 A starting point. 544 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000 Okay, okay. 545 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:59,000 So my question would be then, if people believe there's a base there, why would you even need a base? 546 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,000 Two reasons. 547 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,000 You could have, if they're bringing stuff back to their own planet, if their planet's failing or dying, 548 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,000 just like we're trying to do with Mars. 549 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,000 We're looking at the potential of the future of our planet. 550 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,000 If our planet starts to collapse, where can we go and what can we do? 551 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000 Well, what resources do we have here that might benefit them on their planet? 552 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000 That's an option one. 553 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,000 Okay, so maybe they're using it like a collection point. 554 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,000 Yeah. 555 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Or sort of like the lily pad theory. 556 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:37,000 Like if you're going to have maybe need refueling for something or a base to collect information or resources, 557 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:44,000 heaven forbid that most or all of these stories of abductions are true. 558 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:53,000 Where people reporting underground underwater things happening, that would be a place to examine. 559 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,000 Uh-huh. 560 00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:03,000 Right, to do all that and you don't have to go off world to go do it or hide your ship somewhere else underwater you're undisturbed. 561 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,000 Exactly. 562 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000 No one even knows you're there. 563 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:14,000 Well, I mean, if you were going to build a base, why not put it somewhere thousands of feet below the surface where you could do whatever you want. 564 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,000 Exactly. 565 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,000 Thank you. 566 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:27,000 Ben and Brittany focus on an area mere miles from where Brad Castle had his encounter with the USO. 567 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:34,000 It's also the epicenter of numerous other sightings in the area. 568 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:41,000 Could an entrance to a potential alien base lie in the trenches surrounding Catalina? 569 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,000 I think it might be an interesting place to get in the water and just check it out. 570 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,000 I would think so. 571 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,000 You have a perfect spot and now we know exactly the area. 572 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,000 Why wouldn't we want to get in the water and check for ourselves? 573 00:33:53,000 --> 00:34:04,000 This is really helpful because now we not only have eyewitness accounts, but we can overlay that literally on a map where we know it's very deep there. 574 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,000 It's a great starting place and I can't wait to get out there. 575 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:15,000 All the victims who encountered either Mantis or a USO were within a dozen miles of one another. 576 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:28,000 And at the epicenter of those encounters, the Feralon trench on the southwest side of Catalina reaches a depth of over a mile. 577 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:36,000 So early the next morning, Ben, Melissa and Brittany head out to investigate. 578 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:44,000 2,000, 2,500 feet. It really comes off that shelf. 579 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,000 Maybe we could spin this around and we'll find that that's diveable and go for it. 580 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,000 I love it. 581 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:03,000 Ben's plan is to dive to a depth of 120 feet and swim to see how quickly the trench drops off. 582 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,000 Could an underwater alien base hide in these waters? 583 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,000 How's it going guys? 584 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,000 Good. 585 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000 Getting ready, getting suited up, feeling comfortable. 586 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,000 I'm going to be up top with Melissa. She's actually upstairs getting the comms ready right now. 587 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,000 So I really want to pay attention to what you might be getting down below. 588 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,000 So anything that you see, anything you might feel, let us know. 589 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,000 Let her know she's going to have the head gear on. We're going to go from there. 590 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000 That's your Peter Duke's ride. 591 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,000 This is Melissa. Test, test, test. Can you hear me? 592 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:19,000 Ben, can you tell us what your visibility is? How far is the drop off? Can you see the bottom? 593 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:26,000 This is Tony's monarchy, maybe 40, 50 feet, but there's coming up to the sea field now, it looks like. 594 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:33,000 The poor conditions make it difficult for Ben to fully take in his surroundings. 595 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:40,000 Notice that I think she needs so far, heading over to where it drops off. 596 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:51,000 Wow, look at that. Melissa, you see the edge of it. It looks like it drops off a lot into the sea. 597 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:58,000 This drop off into the Farallon Trench is at the center of all the USO activity Ben and Melissa have investigated. 598 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,000 Ben, that large could be a good place to investigate. 599 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,000 Copy that. Turn it over. 600 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,000 That's a little bit too big. 601 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:23,000 It's really rocky. The car if it rises and falls a lot. It's really kind of creepy down here. Not many fish are in. 602 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:33,000 As Ben approaches the undersea ledge, something odd starts to happen. 603 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:38,000 Andy, I'm getting some strange ratings on my comfort. Over here. 604 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,000 Something really unusual. 605 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,000 Repeat that please. 606 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,000 I can't get down starting the event. 607 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,000 Ben, Ben, can you repeat? 608 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,000 That looks like radio silence. 609 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:07,000 Melissa tries several different channels, but the comms with Ben have gone dead. 610 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000 I know. Thanks for your nervous. 611 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,000 All she and Brittany can do is wait. 612 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:23,000 It's like the nerve-wracking part. Just like your radio frequency. If the magnetism is strong, you're going to start getting spikes in the sound. 613 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,000 So it would pick up if he's over top of something that's amplifying that. 614 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:36,000 If Brittany's theory is correct, something is giving off magnetic frequencies strong enough to shut the comms down. 615 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,000 Topside. That's us. 616 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,000 I can hear you. This is Melissa. We can hear you. 617 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,000 Oh wait, they just came up. Hey guys! 618 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,000 It was a little scary there. We couldn't hear you. There was like three minutes where there was nothing. 619 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,000 The comms did go down for a little bit. 620 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,000 Yeah, they did. 621 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:21,000 What happened is that I swear to you, the compass moved at about 45 degrees. 622 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,000 Seriously? Really? Wow. 623 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,000 They got down there and yours was digitally cracked as well. 624 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,000 Yeah, put it right close to yours. All the same things. 625 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:43,000 A 45 degree change is huge. Most magnetic anomalies that occur naturally on Earth alter readings by 5 degrees. 626 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:52,000 The largest natural anomaly on Earth, a 50 billion ton iron deposit in Russia, spins compasses 15 degrees. 627 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,000 In fact, being near a lightning strike will spin your compass 18 degrees. 628 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:06,000 Whatever's moved Ben's compass and jammed his comms was nearly three times stronger than a lightning strike. 629 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:13,000 I would not want to be in a deep fog or anything here because this is like a mini-Bremita triangle. 630 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,000 Wow, that's awesome. 631 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,000 Yeah, let's say you were trying to hide something here. 632 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,000 I mean, that's a perfect spot. 633 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,000 This would be a great place to hide. 634 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,000 Yeah, on the best part about that too is let's say you are hiding there using that as a disguise. 635 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000 If someone's trying to come over, you're trying to locate. 636 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,000 If everything's off, you're not going to be able to locate or pinpoint an exact spot. 637 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,000 No, and the other thing too is our visibility. I'd say what, about 40 feet? 638 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,000 Yeah, yeah. 639 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:41,000 But as you drop off into the deep and we've got our lights out, you're not going to reach this recreationally diving. 640 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:47,000 You're not going to be able to just even, you'd have trouble setting a drone down to get down into the deep trenches here. 641 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,000 Yeah. 642 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,000 Right, so it's exactly what we were looking for. 643 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,000 Let's head back into shore and on the way we take you to the start. 644 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,000 Sounds good. 645 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,000 You can't blame people for saying there's an alien base down there. 646 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,000 I mean, the compass hit was really freaky. 647 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,000 Well, that was really weird. 648 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,000 You know, I've dove a lot and quite a bit out in Catalina. 649 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:20,000 I've never had my instruments spin, you know, like the compass did. 650 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,000 There was some strange interference that we were having as well. 651 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:34,000 When you'd have your EMF meter up above on land, right, as long as you're away from power lines and all this stuff, 652 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,000 you shouldn't have any interference, but underwater it's even more so. 653 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:43,000 Like, there's nothing down there that should have been causing my compass to deviate like it did. 654 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:50,000 I could even talk to my safety diver, like right near me through the comms. 655 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,000 So I was thinking about all this and I actually got a map. 656 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,000 I sent it to you on your phone there. 657 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,000 Okay, let me see. 658 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,000 It was provided to me by a geophysicist. 659 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:08,000 What is really cool if you look on the backside of Catalina, right where we were diving, 660 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,000 you see the high, the really bright red and pink area. 661 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000 It's like this tiny little spot. 662 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:22,000 Yeah, so that indicates really high magnetism and from the surrounding area it just stands out. 663 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:27,000 This is the exact spot that Ben investigated on his dive. 664 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:36,000 The small red dot on the backside of Catalina Island indicates one of the most intense electromagnetic hotspots on the planet. 665 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:45,000 Is it a naturally occurring anomaly, creating the perfect cover for an entrance to an alien base? 666 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:51,000 Or maybe it's the result of a hidden extraterrestrial stronghold. 667 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:56,000 And then also over by San Clementi Island, where the Navy is. 668 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,000 All of these sightings are near military facilities. 669 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:09,000 And what I'm thinking, this is a natural feature because of the geological fault lines and plates and things that are running under there, 670 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:20,000 causing the magnetism and these visitors, whoever they are, are using that magnetism as sort of like a way to hide their signature. 671 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:27,000 So if you created a base and you didn't want it to be discovered, you're hiding it because there's already an area of high magnetism. 672 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:32,000 And then that's how they're hiding so nobody can really detect that they're there. 673 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:39,000 Ben and Melissa's investigation has revealed shape-shifting craft near key military facilities, 674 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:47,000 blowing orb UFOs over New England and USOs off Southern California. 675 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:54,000 Are blue Syrian, insectoid and mantis alien species planting their flags on the United States? 676 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,000 And if so, where else might they be invading? 677 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:03,000 You know what's interesting? I came across a case up in Idaho. 678 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:10,000 It surrounds this lake, Pondarray. There's a Navy base on one end of the lake. 679 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:15,000 There's parts of the lake that are over a thousand feet deep. 680 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:22,000 And this woman told me that there are crafts that land in the lake, come out of the lake. 681 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,000 We need to get up there and check it out. 682 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:39,000 On the next UFO witness, the skies above northern Idaho are swarmed by a strange class of fireball UFOs. 683 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:44,000 Could this incident be related to what's happening in Catalina? 684 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:50,000 Or is it yet another race of aliens zeroing in on our planet? 685 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:57,000 My husband and I both born and raised here. I heard a lot of talk about things flying over. Nobody knew what it was. 686 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:02,000 Witnesses claim they have been the victims of harrowing abductions. 687 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:11,000 I woke up while it was dark in my room. Two small people, they were trying to pull me off the bed and I couldn't scream. 688 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,000 By mysterious aliens known as the Star People. 689 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,000 He had great big eyes and was a little skinny guy. 690 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,000 Being said, I want you to come with me. 691 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:27,000 Could this alien race have set their sights on the Northwest?